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by ETH_start 600 days ago
>My response it motivated by outcomes, your response is motivated by an extreme devotion to far-right ideology.

>We both understand that such rulings undermine democracy and are detrimental to our country as a whole

You're displaying an unearned sense of moral superiority, built on the assumption that you fully understand my motivations and intentions. You're convinced that my viewpoint must stem from some sort of malicious intent and/or ideological blindness, rather than from genuine differences in opinion.

When you claim it's 'obvious' I'm wrong, you’re essentially weaponizing your own beliefs to silence dissent. Rather than engaging with the substance of my argument, you’re claiming your argument is correct on the basis of the very premise that is under contention. It's circular reasoning that you're badgering me with as a bullying tactic. It's authoritarian extremism.

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> unearned sense of moral superiority

I don't think prioritizing democracy is more moral, but evidently you do. I am not responsible for your own shame. This has consistently been my experience with extremist conservatives: they are riddled with shame about their own beliefs they choose to have. They often lie about what they believe, excluding huge amounts of information, to try to paint what they think will be a more pleasant picture of their beliefs. It's rather sad in my opinion.

> malicious intent and/or ideological blindness, rather than from genuine differences in opinion

I'm "assuming" this because you haven't actually shared any opinion. You, and others, haven't demonstrated what good will come from allowing corporations more direct influence over elections.

Because, presumably, you understand nothing good will come of it. If you did, I would hope such a silver bullet would be the first words out of your mouth in an argument. But they are inexplicably missing.

> silence dissent

Again, there's no dissent for me to silence.

> It's authoritarian extremism

I'm a person, not an authoritarian. Perhaps if you want a more equal argumentative battlefield, you can create a multi-billion dollar corporation and steer democracy to your liking?

I have no obligation to give your arguments equal weight, particularly when you are too cowardly to even articulate your arguments. If you don't even believe yourself then obviously I don't either.

If you could articulate how giving the ultra-wealthy and ultra-powerful even greater influence over elections than they already have is somehow a good thing for democracy and voters like you or I, then I will listen. Until then there's simply nothing for me to listen to.

>I don't think prioritizing democracy is more moral, but evidently you do.

I think your constant personal attacks show an unearned sense of moral superiority.

>They often lie about what they believe,

More assumptions of bad faith showing your unearned sense of moral superiority over your political opposition.

>I'm "assuming" this because you haven't actually shared any opinion.

Me not sharing an opinion on a different topic than what we were discussing is not evidence of ignorance or malicious intent.

But your hubris and pathological belief in the moral inferiority of the political opposition blinds you to basic logic.

I will not allow you to hijack the debate and move the subject to something that we were not discussing with your baseless personal attacks and generalizations about anyone who disagrees with the political left. It's a heinous way of debating, you're basically a bully and an extremist, and I'm not going to indulge in your attempts and your bait. I've already made my point about the Supreme Court and the lack of legal basis for your arguments about their judgments, and that's all there is to debate until we've resolved that issue.