[viraptor]

I'm not sure this can really be simplified without changing a lot of the system. Or maybe even at all, without sacrificing some of the current features.

If your threshold is based on the inscrutable language, I'm not sure that can be really solved by anyone in nix community at this point. You're just looking for a different solution, and that's fine. But nixos still solves real, practical issues for many people.

[agubelu]

I'm not saying that it doesnt. We use both Nix and NixOS at work.

I'm just saying that, if the goal is mainstream adoption, the core team should acknowledge that people will use Nix as a means to an end, and not for the sake of using it as they do.

[viraptor]

> and not for the sake of using it as they do.

You're creating your own ideas of why people do things and presenting them as facts. Please don't, it's neither useful in the discussion nor nice.

[wkearney99]

But they are right though. And casting them as 'not nice' is in itself not nice.

[viraptor]

Are you relying what the authors personally told you, or would you like to point to where they wrote that online?