[cynicalpeace]

My entire point is that individuals should take things into their own hands. By exercising and eating whole foods, not depending on the pharmaceutical system for a panacea that may or may not have long term side effects.

And if enough people do it, we have a healthy culture again.

[cthalupa]

If it was that easy, then 'eating better and exercising regularly' wouldn't be the most prescribed and least successful treatment for obesity.

There's countless comments in here from many people explaining why this is the case. If you don't get it by now, I doubt you ever will.

[cynicalpeace]

It's because our culture is set up to incentivize being weak and fat. You get up from bed, walk to your car, drive to the Dunkin Donuts drive thru, then sit in an office, until you go home.

It's insane to imply this culture just needs some drugs to be healthy.

[cthalupa]

I spent a good chunk of my 20s lifting heavy weights. I ate well. Bulking was harder for me than cutting. It never took any real willpower or discipline for me to eat healthy food in healthy quantities.

Then I got busy with life and the convenience of fast food and then eventually uber eats lead me to putting on weight at a steady pace, and before I realized it, suddenly it was incredibly difficult for me to eat healthy quantities of food. As someone who had many years of success being healthy, it was not something I ever succeeded at doing for more than half a year or so after I let myself get fat, despite repeat attempts to resolve the issue.

Did our culture make it easy for me to get fat when I started devoting all my mental energy elsewhere? Yes. But I was never able to get back to where I should be prior to tirzepatide. Now my relationship with hunger is basically where it was back when I was fit.

Some people are be able to push through the various biological feedback loops based on willpower alone. I'm not one of them. So instead of staying fat, or berating myself for my repeated failed attempts, I'll take the drugs and be better off for it.