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by captainbeef
5095 days ago
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>I'm not sure why you refuse to acknowledge any difference between "existing with black skin" and "choosing to enter a consensual sexual relationship with a person of the same sex". One of these components requires a much larger degree of energy and initiative than the other. One of these is the result of an individual making a conscious decision to do a thing. No. The correct comparison is 'existing with a particular skin colour' and 'existing with a certain sexual orientation'. One does not take more of a conscious effort than the other.
The follow on arguments for whether certain colour mixes or sexual orientations should be allowed to marry are separate. Homosexuality is a socially beneficial bahaviour is as much as, people exist that are gay. Human nature makes it so. Therefore they should be treated equally. |
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"People exist that are alcoholic" "People exist that are pedophiles" "People exist that are depressed" "People exist that are kleptomaniacs" "People exist that are obese" It seems every group desperately searches for a biological genesis of their ills these days, so that they can divert culpability.
Just because certain people exist doesn't mean the behaviors that would flow from their "natural" inclinations are socially beneficial.
>No. The correct comparison is 'existing with a particular skin colour' and 'existing with a certain sexual orientation'. One does not take more of a conscious effort than the other.
In the context of whether the government should promote gay coupling, one takes far more effort. People are unchangeably and constantly a certain race and discrimination on racial basis occurs regardless of that person's actions. If we accept the narrative that a person is unchangeably and constantly gay from birth to death (which I don't), just as a person is unchangeably and constantly ethnic from birth to death, the gay person still has the option to NOT engage in homosexual action. A black person does not have the option to not engage in blackness.
Publicly homosexual couples seeking marriage first must become a couple, then make their coupling public, and then ask the government to give them special privileges. You assert that this takes an identical level of effort as being black or white?