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by rjatran 600 days ago
A ban just means that a group of bureaucrats decided to take public action against a specific person and not against others.

Carlsen, Nakamura and chess.com itself have participated in the Niemann witch hunt. No evidence of over-the-board cheating has ever been provided.

None of the accusers is banned.

Kramnik did the same as they did (by indeed going too far).
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watwut 600 days ago
I think there is difference between "accusing tons of people" and "using his column as a platform to attack people" vs "accusing that one person in one instance".

It is actually perfectly fine to not ban people doing something wrong one or two times while banning people doing that exact thing for fifth time.

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krlamn 600 days ago
No, the difference is between a well connected mob going after a single person (Niemann) vs. a single person going after several.

The former is always excused, presumably because people's ancient group instincts kick in. The latter is a single heretic that must be destroyed.

The group does much more damage than the individual. Everyone already thought that Kramnik's pseudo-mathematical evidence was garbage, so why the ban? The answer is that he mentioned well connected people like Nakamura, so the rogue nail needed to be hammered in.

Groups are never punished, and 95% of Internet commenters always excuse the group.

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chongli 600 days ago
No, Kramnik deserved a ban because he was going after not-well-connected, young, up-and-coming players who have no other recourse to defend themselves. Nakamura made it very clear that he was not going to tolerate this because it jeopardizes the future of the game.

Niemann was already an admitted cheater who had been previously sanctioned for his activities. Carlsen’s accusations against him may have been unfounded for the specific game in question but Niemann’s reputation was already blemished. Niemann’s lawsuit was inexcusable though, as it was essentially a SLAPP [1] designed to hinder everyone’s efforts to get cheating out of chess. Thankfully the lawsuit was unsuccessful and Niemann continues to play chess.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_lawsuit_against_publ...

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progbits 600 days ago
Three new accounts just so you can keep agreeing with yourself, huh?
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