[jjav]

> Feel free to put your money where your mouth is by shorting TESLA if you feel like it's so overvalued. and get crushed like everyone that did just that along the way.

Selling put options on TSLA has been one of my more profitable plays for a long while, so maybe not.

[arcticbull]

Selling puts is a long position :)

[jjav]

Sorry, I meant buying puts. I mostly sell puts on other things, but on TSLA I buy puts.

[bilvar]

Selling puts is a volatility play and doesn't mean anything. Putting your money were your mouth is would be shorting the stock, good luck with that.

[arcticbull]

Only people who don't understand stock trading fundamentally would say that. You have a completely different risk profile when you sell short vs when you take a long position. You pay market interest on borrowed shares (which can eat you alive), you may get your position recalled by the lender, you may take a margin call. Being right at the wrong time is the same thing as being wrong when you're short -- not when you're long. Intelligent traders would take a short position involving options as a hedge - or would sit on the sidelines and not bother.

[bilvar]

You sure typed a lot of words without actually saying anything. Can you stop and think for a minute? Selling puts and profiting from TSLA is not a vindication of your view that the company is trash, the stock is so volatile that you would be a fool to not sell puts even if you’re bullish. I for one have profited a lot by raking in the premiums selling the puts and then also seeing the value of the stock I was “forced” to buy at lower prices appreciate tremendously. This is not a vindication that my view of the company is correct though.

[arcticbull]

Ok let me try again.

Long positions have a completely different risk profile than a short position. One has unlimited upside and a capped downside. One has unlimited downside and a capped upside.

Saying "put your money where your mouth is and short" is asinine because they have completely different risk profiles.

Did that help?

> Can you stop and think for a minute?

Depends who you ask tbh.

> Selling puts and profiting from TSLA is not a vindication of your view that the company is trash.

Selling puts is a long position -- a bullish position -- not a short position. You would only sell puts if you were optimistic about the company. The fact that you don't know that tells me you're not ready to trade options and vindicates my statement that you don't fundamentally understand stock trading. So maybe stop going around and telling people to "put their money where their mouth is by shorting."