[Fifnmar101]

Just to be clear, I'm not saying good words to any regime. I mean both the US sanction and the Russian invasion suck. I don't want another country bossing over what you can do, and I don't want another country pointing guns on your head either.

Russia is bad, but that doesn't mean I'm in support of bans like this without a reason. Just because you "have the reason to commit crimes" is not strong enough a reason to exclude you! How child's bully it is!

[Wytwwww]

> don't want another country bossing over what you can do

So we agree that invading other countries is wrong. However you believe that a country has the inherent right to do anything (including imprisoning, murdering them etc. etc.) to its citizens and face no external repercussions? At the same time other countries do not have the right to not do business with that country or to prevent its citizens from doing that. Seems slightly contradictory? No?

> not strong enough a reason to exclude you

IMHO that just sounds like a pretext to me and the removal itself seems like mainly a political statement (especially considering the rhetoric coming from Linus himself).

Not that I'd have any issues with that whatsoever (if those people really want to keep their maintainer status so strongly they could've just moved to another country like a over a million of other Russians did.)

[homebrewer]

Most of those emigrees have returned. Out of all people I personally know only two still live abroad, and only one of them has no plans to ever go back (but has not changed his passport because it's truly difficult).

And saying "they could easily have emigrated" shows that you have zero touch with the common man. No, many people can't "simply leave" even if their profession is in demand.

Edit: ah, I now see your other comments. No further discussion needed, don't forget to label me either a paid troll, a useful idiot, or both.

[riehwvfbk]

It helps to think of these people as essentially Mao's Red Guards. They are (I hope) still very young and as a result very absolutist in their thinking. They are fanatical about their country being the best because they haven't seen or experienced much else. And they get a sense of power from belonging to what they think is the group of the People Who Are Always Right.

Mao's Red Guards. Because these ducks quack like those ones did.

[Wytwwww]

It's rather confusing and hard to understand which side are you targeting here... Because only one is semi-fanatically defending their country while disregarding pretty much any argument or fact that doesn't align with that.

[walterbell]

We need literature, fiction or non-fiction, which can illustrate some historical thought fallacies that have lead well-intentioned humans into destruction empowered by self-righteousness. Bonus for testimonials by humans who have recovered from this civilizational anti-pattern.

[sampo]

Opening scene of the 3 Body Problem tv-series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3giTYRttoRQ

[wiseowise]

Keep projecting.

You’re insane, if you think that this is grey situation.

Vanishing empire invaded another country with intent to occupy and subjugate another. Expecting that one hand can rape, kill, steal while another participates just like nothing happened is psychopath mentality.

[fsckboy]

>doesn't mean I'm in support of bans like this without a reason

You're saying that you don't trust Torvalds. I do trust him.

Linus said there are legal reasons that involve laws and lawyers and he's not going to go into more detail on the internet. If you had responsibilities to other people as Linus does, and those responsibilities included discussions with attorneys, you'd be a fool to talk about the details i public, so your personal needs in this matter don't see important to me.

He also says he's not US but Finnish, and given the history of Russia's attitude toward Finland, he's fine with it. He also says that what's involved here is not simply US law or policy, so laying the blame for this on the US is misguided.