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by cloudripper 600 days ago
Given the extensive infrastructure you and others are building around flakes in the Nix ecosystem, despite flakes still being experimental, what does the roadmap look like for your efforts, and more broadly for officially establishing flakes??
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grhmc 600 days ago
Sure. To start with, we see flakes as stable as they are today: https://determinate.systems/posts/experimental-does-not-mean.... The ecosystem has broadly adopted flakes as their preferred way to use Nix, and we're standing by them and are committing to not breaking their flakes in the future.

On Monday, we launched Determinate Nix to help make this promise more real: https://determinate.systems/posts/announcing-determinate-nix.... Note: Determinate Nix is not a fork, it is a downstream. Our plan, and intent, is to keep all our patches sent to the upstream project first.

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slabity 600 days ago
> Note: Determinate Nix is not a fork, it is a downstream. Our plan, and intent, is to keep all our patches sent to the upstream project first.

And what happens if the Nix community doesn't pull those patches, and instead goes with a different solution? Will your downstream adapt to the upstream project, possibly breaking things for your customers?

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grhmc 600 days ago
We won't break our customers.

Indeed, part of the motivation for our downstream distribution is to be able to ship some of our patches faster than upstream wants to. However, these patches are generally about usability improvements that are not incompatible.

If the upstream project evolves in a different direction, it will be on us to move with them too.

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depr 600 days ago
The roadmap is closed-source solutions as described here: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/introducing-flakehub/32044/3
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grhmc 600 days ago
lol. We have two closed source projects that are meaningful in any way: FlakeHub, and determinate-nixd.

Everything else we have is, and all of our improvements to Nix are, open source and permissively licensed. That includes Determinate Nix Installer and zero-to-nix, both of which are permissively licensed with the hope and intention of the upstream project adopting or integrating the material as they saw fit.

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