[imiric]

V is half-baked in many ways and shouldn't be considered for anything serious.

Odin[1] is a better alternative in the niche modern language space, and also shares many design choices with Go. It has operators like `or_return` and union types like `Maybe(T)`, which can in practice be used for improved error handling.

Though I honestly don't find Go lacking in this sense. The syntax is a bit verbose, but it forces you to think about how to handle every error, which is a good thing. There are far more important design topics worth discussing than this. Go usually makes more correct trade-offs where they matter compared to other languages, and most of the criticism it receives is unwarranted IMO.

[1]: https://odin-lang.org/docs/overview/

[baranul]

Odin can be considered even more "half-baked". It is not a mainstream "corporate approved" language either. It's one thing to suggest sticking with Go or using C# as an alternative, it is another thing to suggest languages like Odin, Zig, or some other almost unknown like C3. At least V has a place at the table, with being an actual useful alternative to Go. Has a significant following and hardcore fans, because V gives them the missing features that many Go users have been begging or looking for (enums, sum types, immutability, easier C interop...). Same can kind of be said for Zig, with having a significant following, and pushing it as an alternative compiler for C.

Anyone taking a serious look at Odin or C3 (strangely morphed from C2 into being more Jai-like or Odin-like), will know they are both no where near to being production ready or 1.0 (many years far away), despite both being old. Odin has less of a following, less contributors, minimal documentation, no books on Amazon, and many of its good ideals were admittedly "borrowed" straight from Jai. Many consider Odin a Jai-clone, where it would be better to wait on the "real McCoy", which would be Jon Blow's releasing of Jai to the general public. Jai fans[1] are about as hardcore as it gets. When Jai is finally released, nearly everybody will forget about Odin or C3 (even tsoding suggested dropping it for a public release of Jai), and very few people even know about them as it is. Just about whatever Odin (or C3) wanted or aims to do, Jai does.

[1]: https://jamesoswald.dev/posts/jai-1/ (Simplicity, Jai, and Joy)

[amedvednikov]

It's not half baked lol.

[imiric]

Ah, you're the author. :D

I mean, kudos for sticking to it over the years in spite of the mountain of criticism, but I personally confirmed a few months ago that it's indeed half-baked. :) Certain features work sometimes, but often fail in cryptic ways. The documentation is a mixture of missing, outdated, wrong or aspirational. I've forgotten the specifics, but I remember being frustrated by it relatively quickly, and abandoning it altogether in less than a week. Good luck with it anyway!