[zmgsabst]

PAM debacle (17Q4) in Device Econ is a counter example.

And that wasn’t even a mistake the SDEs made — they were punished for the economists being reckless and subsequently bullied out of the company, despite the SDEs trying to raise the alarm the whole time.

[donavanm]

Is that devices as in digital/alexa land? Never had too much overlap there. AWS and CDO were discrete for incident and problem management after ‘14 or soz

[zmgsabst]

Yeah — my point was Amazon is very large and standards vary. I won’t pretend I know the whole picture, but I’ve seen retaliation against SDEs multiple times.

I’ve heard mixed things about CDO, positive things about AWS, but where I worked in Devices and FinTech were both wild… to the point FinTech (circa 2020) didn’t even use the PRFAQ/6-pager methodology. Much to the surprise of people in CDO I asked for advice.