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This is an extremely pro-business perspective. Just because they can do it doesn't mean they're correct, and we should just bend over and spread our cheeks for them. Certainly, we shouldn't beg for them to fuck us, but apparently some of us are really craving it.

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No. This is reality. Business’s provide a service or product. They pay people to perform tasks to deliver the service or product.

Just because you want to work from home doesn’t mean you get to. Blue collar jobs don’t get the luxury of working from home. But apparently people like you feel like you’re above everyone else because you have a white collar job so you’re entitled to work from home.

Get a grip. You don’t get to dictate every aspect of your job. Start your own business if you want to do things your way.

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> Get a grip

Au Contraire, you should get a grip because you're being very pathetic.

It's one thing to be contempt with actions that harm you. That's just sad. But actively begging for it is nothing short of pathetic.

Call me entitled, I don't care. The reality is people like me end up happy and people like you ensure your own misery. It's so unbelievable that people don't even need to make you miserable - in the event you ever find yourself happy, you will do anything possible to make yourself miserable.

We DO have some control over our jobs, and we CAN demand better. The only reason you have the life you have is because a lot of people before you demanded better. Just for you to be a weak coward who lays on his knees begging for his throat to get used. If that's what you want to be, fine.

Objectively, you do yourself no favors. That's not my opinion, that's what it is. Nobody, and I do literally mean nobody, cares if you work hard or purposefully work at a business you do not like. Blue collar people don't give even half a fuck that you want to have as much, or as little, luxury as them. WFH people will not call you brave because you commute to the office. Instead, what happens is they continue their life MUCH happier than you, and you remain miserable by your own devices, and not a soul on Earth looks your way - not even for pity.

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Lol so now anyone who works in the office is “miserable”. You’re clutching at straws mate.

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I never said that. I said being against WFH is your own misery, because it's true.

Even if you LOVE the office, you should be encouraging WFH because it's better for you. Less traffic, less driving, higher quality of life for you to reach the office.

But you advocate things that directly harm you. That's pathetic, sorry there's just no other way to say it. It's not a virtue to be self-destructive, it's just kind of sad.

Also business owners do not care if you bend over for them. They're fucking you and leaving before you get up in the morning - talking real sweet to them won't make them like you. Again, you just look pitiful and nobody really cares and nobody is clapping.

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WFH is worse. Juniors don’t get the mentoring they need. Collaboration is a fraction of in person. People become siloed. Knowledge is not shared. Knowing when roadblocks occur becomes more difficult. Productivity drops.

Sounds like you’ve worked at terrible companies with terrible people. Instead of finding a good company. Then again I haven’t worked at a company with more than 30 employees and so I get paid well and have access to walk 5 meters to talk to the CEO/Owner.

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Right. Again, even if this is your opinion, you should be pro WFH in general because it makes your life better as someone who works in an office.

But you're not, because you're attempting to appeal to what you think people more successful than you (business owners) want. As opposed to what objectively would be best for you. That's pathetic and self-destructive.

If it makes you feel better, most Americans are self-destructive and don't know how to stop. But if you don't advocate for yourself, you should be aware that certainly nobody else is.

I've worked at good companies, and bad companies. The reality is neither care about my well-being because only I, and my family, care about my well-being. You have to understand if you drop dead right now the world will continue without you. The company will not cease operations for even an hour.

Therefore, you must constantly make an effort to live the best life you can, while you can. Purposefully harming yourself with the intention of creating a better perception doesn't help you, especially when that perception is worthless.