[hggigg]

There was that bit a few years back where the HN folk saw Satya as the second coming of Microsoft and anything even slightly critical or suspicious of Microsoft was downvoted to oblivion as highly implausible. I think people are still coming down from that high.

He's not the messiah, he's a naughty businessman!

(Note: I shot my HN account then because the majority of the MS stuff on here was utterly intolerable for many of us who have been MS devs/users since day zero and have the mental scarring)

Edit: remind me to post this when MS staff are still asleep next time...

[dartos]

People on HN seem to be either very anti-corporatist or love to white knight big tech

There’s no in between.

[fragmede]

the inbetweeners who are here aren't motivated to post about being in-between, which is why it reads that way, unfortunately.

[dartos]

The classic internet engagement bias.

[hggigg]

Hey I'm right in the middle: I use a Mac and use open source software on it, while moaning how shitty both are.

[dartos]

Enlightened enough to know that open source is good, but smart enough to realize that it’s a pain.

I’ve embraced the pain and have been using Linux as my daily driver for like 5 years.

[hggigg]

Yeah not happening here. I am Adobe and Apple's bitch.

I mean I'd really like to but the software I use just isn't there.

[boredtofears]

It’s possible to be both critical of Microsoft’s past and also pleased at their last decade of efforts in OSS with things like vscode and typescript.

[dartos]

It’s possible to do both of those and still not trust MS.

I don’t believe that vscode will be this free mostly open editor forever. I’m expecting to see vscode pro or something any day.

Typescript can, very cynically, be seen as an on-ramp for vscode, as vscode has pretty much the best typescript suppor.

[boredtofears]

Luckily that’s why we have OSS licenses, if/when they do that there will be a community fork.

[dartos]

> if/when they do that there will be a community fork

One would hope, but if all the project’s experts are hired and have been working for a company that closed their once open source project, forks will have a hard time surviving.

That’s why redis and elastic search didn’t see an explosion of popular forks. Terraform has opentofu, but I haven’t looked in on them in a while.

I don’t believe there are any Atom forks around since Microsoft killed that project after aquiring GitHub.

Also, the actual Visual Studio code you download from their website is NOT fully open source. It contains closed source extensions and configurations.