[orangeboats]

> Disabling it is often the quickest fix for a variety of networking issues.

In a way, you disabling it now is the reason why others are disabling it later. A lot of IPv6 deployment issues are precisely caused by middleboxes/clients disabling or misconfiguring it.

[otabdeveloper4]

Yes, and? Don't make excuses for shitty technology. The mental model of what the "future Internet" (aka the one we're using now) would look like is completely insane in IPv6.

[orangeboats]

I am saying a lot of "IPv6 issues" are not because of the protocol itself, but rather it is self-inflicted pain.

You quickly assuming IPv6 is a "shitty technology" means that you are part of the problem. Congratulations, you just proved my point.

>the one we're using now

The one we are using now is held by a bandaid. It's insane that, for me to connect to other computer, I need a middleman (STUN or other coordination services) to help me with it.

[otabdeveloper4]

> It's insane that, for me to connect to other computer, I need a middleman

It's not insane, it's the default and correct assumption. I certainly don't want random computers connecting to mine just because they want to.

STUN is a shitty solution to this problem, but IPv6 doesn't provide any solution at all, so a shitty solution wins here. Sorry.

[orangeboats]

> IPv6 doesn't provide any solution at all

1. Reject the IPv6 solution

2. Say IPv6 doesn't have a solution

3. ???

4. Profit

Sigh.