[lumberjack]

We can't keep ignoring politics or we'll end up with laws so invasive that not even hardware and software can overcome them. And more importantly we can't let them gain any legislative precedence. It's much easier to fight now than in five years.

And further more I don't see how we have any advantages in the realms of hardware were we would afford to fight.

[tomjen3]

Normally I would agree with you, but the pace at which computers and the internet improves is now so high, and congress is so gridlocked that I do believe that we have left them behind, permantly.

[hobin]

I believe this is where I point out that the USA is not the only developed country in the world worth fighting for.

[tomjen3]

I wouldn't fight for any other, with the possible exception of Germany, Spain or Austria.

France is too egocentrical, Britain (as much as I love the country) has a government hell-bent on recreating 1984, the Scandinavian countries are dying a slow death of too many paper-pushers and most of Eastern-Europe cannot rightly be called developed.

But none of that matters as realistically the US is the only country powerful enough to cause sufficient damaged to be worth worring about.

I should note that I am not American and so this is not a matter of nationalism.

[hobin]

"France is too egocentrical, Britain (as much as I love the country) has a government hell-bent on recreating 1984, the Scandinavian countries are dying a slow death of too many paper-pushers and most of Eastern-Europe cannot rightly be called developed."

Ignoring for the moment that much of that sounds overly cynical and is definitely an overgeneralisation, which part of 'fight' did you miss? The very reason we're fighting is to do away with many of these problems and improve the situation! For some reason, you think this applies to the USA and a few other countries, but when it comes to other countries, what you say comes down to "Now, listen, I really want to solve these problems. Really, I do. But listen, you guys have problems, so now I can't help you." How does that make sense?

"But none of that matters as realistically the US is the only country powerful enough to cause sufficient damaged to be worth worring about."

I think you would be surprised. The USA is still only one country. It's a very powerful one, of course, I'm glad we agree on that part. But you can't focus on one country to the exclusion of almost everything else. (Well, you can, but that would not be very smart.)

Also, you forgot the Benelux, but I suspect you would also consider these countries too small to be considered.

[kaybe]

Someone called the Pirate Party movements "political selfdefence", and I reckon that's just what it is. Just fighting from the outside is exhaustive, we can't have big protests every week and the attacks keep coming.