[mdaniel]

All this mocking when moto exists is just :-( https://github.com/awslabs/git-remote-s3/blob/v0.1.19/test/r...

Actually, moto is just one bandaid for that problem - there are SO MANY s3 storage implementations, including the pre-license-switch Apache 2 version of minio (one need not use a bleeding edge for something as relatively stable as the S3 Api)

[notpushkin]

> there are SO MANY s3 storage implementations

I suppose given this is under the AWS Labs org, they don’t really care about non-AWS S3 implementations.

[mdaniel]

Well, I look forward to their `docker run awslabs/the-real-s3:latest` implementation then. Until such time, monkeypatching api calls to always give the exact answer the consumer is looking for is damn cheating

[notpushkin]

Agreed, haha. Well, I think it should work with Minio & co. just as well, but be prepared to have your issues closed as unsupported. (Pesonally, I might give it a go with Backblaze B2 just to play around, yeah)

[chrsig]

it wouldn't be unprecedented. dynamodb-local exists.

[SahAssar]

Do you mean boto (the python SDK for AWS)?

EDIT: They probably do not, I'm guessing they mean https://docs.getmoto.org/en/latest/index.html ?

[flakes]

moto server for testing S3 is pretty great. It’s about the same experience as using a minio container to run integration tests against.

I use this, and testing.postgresql for unit testing my api servers with barely any mocks used at all.

[neeleshs]

There is also testcontainers. Supports multiple languages. Uses containers though.

https://testcontainers-python.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

[mdaniel]

Happy 10,000th Day to you :-D Yes, moto and its friend localstack are just fantastic for being able to play with AWS without spending money, or to reproduce kabooms that only happen once a month with the real API

I believe moto has an "embedded" version such that one need not even have in listen on a network port, but I find it much, much less mental gymnastics to just supersede the "endpoint" address in the actual AWS SDKs to point to 127.0.0.1:4566 and off to the races. The AWS SDKs are even so friendly as to not mandate TLS or have allowlists of endpoint addresses, unlike their misguided Azure colleagues

[SahAssar]

> Happy 10,000th Day to you :-D

Sorry, not sure what you mean?

[mdaniel]

https://xkcd.com/1053/

[misnome]

How do you know they are in the US?

[remram]

Unfortunately there's been a few vulnerability since that old Minio release. For something you expose to users, it's a problem.

[mdaniel]

I would hope my mentioning moto made it clear my comment was about having an S3 implementation for testing. Presumably one should not expose moto to users, either