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by log_e 615 days ago
You realize tautology is a logical fallacy, right?
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It's like saying "A beginner is new to a subject." That's tautological since the definition of beginner implies being new to a subject.

Those aren't logical fallacies; they're just not very useful.

The first rule of Tautology Club is the first rule of Tautology Club.

https://xkcd.com/703/

Huh? A tautology is a statement that is automatically true by the laws of logic.
GP is correct that the argument contains an informal fallacy[1], and people often express this criticism by saying "your argument is tautological," and you are correct that a tautology is a statement which is always true [2].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)

> GP is correct that the argument contains an informal fallacy

The GP didn't say that.

As for which informal fallacy the GGP's argument contained, I would say it was more like a false dilemma. And the GGP did say "almost tautological", which implicitly recognizes that there might be other possibilities.

> people often express this criticism by saying "your argument is tautological,"

I have never seen this (nonsensical) way of expressing the criticism that an argument is false by saying that it is tautological (and therefore true).

The point is that it's an overloaded term, which makes it easy to talk past each other.

If you wish to see usages like I described, have a look here.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

It is not. It is actually quite the opposite.