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by smashah 614 days ago
Skipping a queue in traffic is an asshole thing to do, but we in a society give them the benefit of the doubt because we don't know what they're going through. It inconveniences literally everyone, yet it would be weird for the driver to be blocked from that road for doing so.

We shouldn't accept arbitrary restrictions from stupid megacorps.

I studied Aviation engineering with Pilot studies and am also a frequent flyer, idgaf if someone skiplags.

If a seat on a plane is empty it literally doesn't make a difference to my life as my ass is on another seat. If the empty seat is next to mine then actually that's amazing.

> This all causes problems for people on the ground

As much as delayed connection or missing passenger, they're trained to do this and it's their job to do so. They're not especially annoyed or insulted if it's due to skiplags. Also your assumption is that the person skiplagging checked in baggage which is beyond idiotic to do and to assume.

> logistics team scheduling

ops doesn't sit there and cry waiting for 1 single skiplagger with no checked bags. You know what the solution to this is actually? The airlines to allow it so then they are informed of no-shows beforehand. Simple.

> means the airline flies an empty seat that should have been occupied, wasting fuel

As I said before, if airlines allowed people to be open about their intentions to skiplag then that can be taken into account during W&B. Also 1 or 2 people skiplagging doesn't make a significant dent in fuel burn throughout the flight. Wait till you learn about how aircraft have enough fuel on board to divert - further wasting fuel!! Safety factors are destroying the environment!

> If you engage in skiplagging, you are sincerely a greedy fucking bastard and deserve every blacklisting you get.

Have you considered that people may have legitimate reasons to skiplag? i.e they cannot afford the full fare, they cannot make the following flight for other reasons?

Skip laggers are not uniquely annoying pax, most of your complaints can be made of people who fly for cheap using points - probably an even more collective nuisance. Being on a megacorps side against consumers is strange behaviour.

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>legitimate reasons to skiplag? i.e they cannot afford the full fare,

Air travel is a privilege, not a right. If you can't afford a ticket, don't fucking buy it.

>they cannot make the following flight for other reasons?

Sure, but that's not skiplagging.

>Being on a megacorps side against consumers is strange behaviour.

I am siding with common decency. If you lie in the course of business just to save some pretty pennies, costing everyone else in the process, you are a scumbag and you deserve whatever comes your way.

If skiplagging becomes more common, airlines will ultimately raise prices for everyone to make up for the inefficiency and everyone loses. Screw that noise.

> Air travel is a privilege, not a right. If you can't afford a ticket, don't fucking buy it.

They did buy the ticket. Legally.

> Sure, but that's not skiplagging.

That literally is the same as skiplagging. Skiplagging is only determined on intentions, not actions as it is the same action.

> If skiplagging becomes more common, airlines will ultimately raise prices for everyone to make up for the inefficiency and everyone loses. Screw that noise.

You should be more mad about people flying for cheap with credit card points, that literally DOES raise prices for everyone. But I'm sure you do that all the time so it magically makes it okay.

>They did buy the ticket. Legally.

Yes, that ticket is a binding contract for both sides.

If you sign a contract fully aware you don't intend to honor it, you are an asshole.

>Skiplagging is only determined on intentions,

...Yes?

I'm not sure if you're being daft. It is skiplagging to buy something with the intent to not honor the deal, it is not skiplagging if you cannot honor the deal due to factors outside your control.

>You should be more mad about people flying for cheap with credit card points, that literally DOES raise prices for everyone.

The airlines receive compensation from the banks so it's a non-issue.

> I'm not sure if you're being daft

Not surprised, you wouldn't be able to recognize daft if it were staring at you through the mirror.

> The airlines receive compensation from the banks so it's a non-issue.

Yeah bro the banks give out credit card points out of the kindness of their hearts, it's not like they charge merchants fees to make up for it which then get paid for by everyone in society because some cheap bozos think they're mining free amex points sitting in business class having not actually paid for it.

> If skiplagging becomes more common, airlines will ultimately raise prices for everyone to make up for the inefficiency and everyone loses. Screw that noise.

How would everyone lose? Bans against skiplagging allow airlines to divorce their ticket prices from the costs of the underlying service. If airlines were say not allowed to ban skiplagging, they would be forced to price their tickets more in line with the underlying costs (on competitive routes anyway) so we should expect some routes' ticket costs to decrease.