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by throwaway19972 616 days ago
Who cares? Have you seen the profit margins at these stingy-ass companies?
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>Who cares? Have you seen the profit margins at these stingy-ass companies?

Should stealing be excused just because you're doing it to some wealthy entity?

The problem with the "it's OK to steal from them because they're in a position of privilege and I'm not" justification logic, is that then the poor/homeless guy around the block should also be ok to rob you or break into your car because "who cares, have you seen the fat wages those techies are raking in?"

Have Meta done a lot of nasty stuff that they should be punished for? Definitely. But that's another topic they need to be held accountable for by the law, and should never be a justification to green light stealing since two wrongs don't make a right and you don't want to live in a society where stealing is normalized as long as you think you're doing it to someone more priviledged than you.

How convenient that that line of thinking's ultimate outcome is to solidify the security of the haves goods over the have nots access to what they need. Much like taking second servings before the children have had their fill.

Funny bit is no one ever seems to want to contemplate how to defang the power laws that yield winner takes all, fostering massive inequality at the expense of the majority of the population.

That'd make being rich harder though. No one wants that.

Its not stealing they gave them the money, in the form of the voucher, they just didnt like what they were using the voucher for or the way they were using it (on the way out of the office).
How is this stealing?
How is it not?

It is basically lying on an expense report.

They were given permission to use funds to dinner if they were working late. Instead they treated the program as a personal credit card.

> Should stealing be excused just because you're doing it to some wealthy entity?

Absolutely!

> The problem with the "it's OK to steal from them because they're in a position of privilege and I'm not" justification logic, is that then the poor/homeless guy around the block should also be ok to rob you or break into your car because "who cares, have you seen the fat wages those techies are raking in?"

False equivalence. But also, I'm absolutely ok with this.

> Have Meta done a lot of nasty stuff that they should be punished for? Definitely. But that's another topic they need to be held accountable for by the law, and should never be a justification to green light stealing since two wrongs don't make a right and you don't want to live in a society where stealing is normalized as long as you think you're doing it to someone more priviledged than you.

I'm completely fine with this world.

Hilariously, you could have made this argument a lot better by indicating perception of privilege is subjective. But you didn't—and instead only produced examples that should be ok to anyone with an ounce of morality.

Please share your address. I would like some of your property.
Are we sure the people with $400k salaries abusing a company food voucher program to buy toothpaste aren’t the stingy ones?
Are you asking the right question when instead of just being paid the employer is engaging in the sordid practice of "company scrip" with more layers?

Employers should not be exercising control over how compensation is used. Period.

They weren't.it wasn't compensation.

The employees were stealing from the company coffee jar

It certainly counts as part of the compensation package.

That said, it's compensation employees accepted with conditions in its use, and to intentionally violate those conditions is not ethically supportable.

I don't think they do, at least for tax purposes. Some have suggested this is one reason companies are sensitive around the topic.

Work meals are not W-2 taxable compensation if they meet several conditions, such as being consumed outside normal working hours and on premises.

A gift card to buy food or whatever you want is w-2 taxable income. A meal voucher so people can eat while working late is not.

https://www.henssler.com/employer-provided-meals-are-they-ta...

for comparison, in germany it is compensation and taxed as income. as far as i know almost everything an employee in germany receives is considered compensation to avoid tax loopholes. even actual free meals served in the office (not just vouchers) are assigned a monetary value and taxed. only snacks, drinks or exceptional meals (like pizza for the all-hands meeting) are exempt.