[9dev]

GP is arguing for something else though, namely that intelligent design is a fallacy. It’s advocacies argue that god created humans a mere 10k years or so ago, which obviously implies we didn’t evolve over millions of years, but were in fact created with inexplicable flaws. It’s all bullshit, of course, but there are people believing that.

[protonbob]

"It’s advocacies argue that god created humans a mere 10k years or so ago". This is false. There are plenty of ID advocates that believe in a scientific timeline, albeit, just with some intelligent guidance.

[nkrisc]

Which is conveniently unverifiable.

[fellowniusmonk]

And it would be a massively counter intuitive finding (if ID turned out to be anything but fantasy) because based on genetics and morphological lineage it looks exactly like a system/process that fits unguided evolution through selective pressure feedback loops.

[protonbob]

I'm just saying that your comment about 10k years is wrong and is not commonly held among intelligent design folks. I'm not arguing for that position though I do hold it.

[nkrisc]

Intelligent design is a code word for the creation myth of the Abrahamic religions in an attempt to make it seem like it has some basis in science.

Please point to a theory of intelligent design that is verifiable and doesn’t involve magic.

[protonbob]

I wasn't trying to dig into the specifics. I was just correcting your incorrect presumption that ID is about young earth creationism. Theology is about the why and not the how.