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by nikisweeting 612 days ago
> The default settings should be "safe" for the default user,

I 100% agree, but because private archiving is doable but NOT 100% safe yet I cant make that mode the default. The difficult reality currently is that archiving anything non-public is not simple to make safe.

Every capture will contain reflected session cookies, usernames, and PII, and other sensitive content. People don't understand that this means if they share a snapshot of one page they're potentially leaking their login credentials for an entire site.

It is possible to do safely, and we provide ways to achieve that that I'm constantly working on improving, but until it's easy and straightforward and doesn't require any user education on security implications, I cant make it the default.

The goal is to get it to the point where it CAN be the default, but I'm still at least 6mo away from that point. Check out the archivebox/sessions dir in the source code for a look at the development happening here.

Until then, it requires some user education and setting up a dedicated chrome profile + cookies + tweaking config to do. (as an intentional barrier to entry for private archiving)

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I don't think it's possible to remove information about yourself from a webpage before you share it. It's always possible to have crafted a website that sneaks reflected session information or the instance of archivebox's IP address into the main content. This can be a real response:

> And that was this week's newsletter! Congratulation for reading to the bottom, dear 198.51.100.1.

Even if the archivebox instance noted its own IP to do a search-and-replace like s|198\.51\.100\.1|XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX| on the snapshot it is about to create, it's possible to craft a response that obscures the presence of the information, such as by encoding the IP like this: MTk4LjUxLjEwMC4xCg==. I.e. steganography (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography).

Being able to anonymize archives before sharing them is something I would find interesting, but I don't think you can beat steganography, so I'm wondering what exactly you mean you plan to do.

That's a really good response, thanks.

I've been very impressed by all of your responses in here, but that one in particular shows empathy, compassion, and a deep deep subject matter expertise.

Thank you. And thank you for taking the time to read all of it, there's a lot of great questions being asked.