[1oooqooq]

> overwhelming with 5 sizes already.

without jobs it's just a matter of time they go back to being "just an expensive dell" like before

[JimDabell]

Steve Jobs has been dead for 13 years. Whatever was going to happen without him already has.

[FirmwareBurner]

It can take a long time for corporate culture to rot. It took Google about 15-20 years to fully reach their villain arc.

Currently they have Tim Cook at the helm whi is good at continuing Job's vision as the two worked very close for a long time, so the big question is what happens after Cook leaves.

[pests]

> It took Google about 15-20 years to fully reach their villain arc.

Google has only been around for 26 years, Gmail for 20. I agree they have reached the villain arc but I disagree with the timeline.

[dullcrisp]

What makes you say that?

[imchillyb]

Not OP, but...

That very behavior was troublesome for Apple in the past, twice.

Two times Steve Jobs swooped in and saved Apple from Dell-ifying themselves. Twice.

Since Job's demise, Apple has relentlessly marched toward Dellification once more. The immediate revenue is tantalizing, it's the dilution of ones own market that ends up killing the golden goose, and the eggs they lay.

[fhdsgbbcaA]

Don’t worry, locking you into their services will make it impossible to leave!

The one overarching success of the Tim Cook era is ruthlessly pursuing consumer lock in at all costs.

[exitb]

There are a lot of customers locked in the ecosystem, sure. The question is whether the ecosystem is still able to attract new customers, as it once was.

[crossroadsguy]

Not sure. But is it possible that the reason could be for such a statement - just open eyes, ears, and more importantly an open mind and immunity from iFandom?

I mean please just look at their product pages on apple.com.