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by ahmeneeroe-v2 615 days ago
>Congratulations on a text book case of Chesterton's Fence [0]. You've mischaracterized the purpose and nature of the law.

You have created a convoluted ex post facto defense of taxi laws which sound plausible but are likely wrong.

"Chesterton's fence" doesn't say that "the most socially positive explanation is correct".

The simpler explanation is one of "concentrated benefits, diffused costs". A group of taxi owners helped implement a state-enforced monopoly at the expense of the rest of society. Technology enabled a new group (Uber) to concentrate benefits further at the expense of the relatively diffused monopoly-holders. Society benefited in some ways (easier rides) while likely bearing costs in other ways (drivers subsidizing Uber).

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> You have created a convoluted ex post facto defense

Why is it convoluted? Watch the process that has happened with every other technological development in the last (say) 40 years? How is what I've described any different?

> A group of taxi owners helped implement a state-enforced monopoly at the expense of the rest of society.

You assume that the downsides of the "monopoly" (I'll ignore the twisting of the conventional meaning of words there) are larger than the upsides, and yet you seem to similarly assume that the downsides of Uber are smaller than the upsides.

Society got a new line of work that made a reasonable living, control over the drivers in the interest of safety and accountability. Those are not exactly like the discovery of fire or the dawn of agriculture, but they are not of zero worth.

I also note how your description of "A group of taxi owners helped implement" has an implicit negative tone, something alone the lines of regulatory capture. Yet we regularly hear calls for regulations to be created with the participation of those affected by it, so that legislatures and civil servants don't make stupid mistakes/decisions.

Look, I'm not really interesting in defending the medallion systems. Taxi service in many places sucked under it and conditions for many drivers weren't exactly what society might have been aiming for.

But tearing it down in favor of another mixed bag of pros & cons needs to be done with a subtle weighing for the relative pros & cons, not the reckless and giddy greed of a company like Uber.

Isn’t the entire point of Chesterton’s fence to consider things ex post facto? How would you explain places that have regulations for taxis but not artificial scarcity? I don’t think the collusion argument is simpler at all. That is not to say it doesn’t explain the situation in certain places of course.