[antonyt]

I was under the impression most vegetarians were vegetarian for similar moral reasons to vegans, they just draw the line at a different place (direct consumption of the flesh vs any product or byproduct).

Nonetheless I now understand the point you’re making about the framing of “cheating.” Thanks for explaining!

[collingreen]

Thanks for listening! It's a touchy subject with lots of baggage but it's dear to my heart so I appreciate it when folks can chat about it without vitriol.