[ajross]

I think I did make the point, but I'll do it again. Teaching a LLM to reason is 100% isomorphic to teaching a child to reason. All the logic being deployed here by the luddite set[1] could be deployed to explain why your grade schooler will never reason correctly. And it's wrong there, and there's no reason to expect that it's wrong here.

Very broadly: you learn to reason by learning to write and run "code" in your head. Can an LLM write and run code? Yes, it can. Do they use it currently to "reason" well? No, because no one has made that work yet. Does that constitute an argument that they CANNOT? Clearly not.

[1] And I'm no LLM booster! See the point about the pendulum upthread.