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by j-a-a-p 613 days ago
The willpower frame actually works pretty well for a lot of people. If not than in our society almost everybody would be obese. This pill will make things worse for the group that hangs out in the treadmills and drinks green and disgusting smoothies.

On topic, very happy this medicine exists, but let's pray god will keep the prescription only for BMI > 35.
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autoexec 613 days ago
> The willpower frame actually works pretty well for a lot of people. If not than in our society almost everybody would be obese.

In the US nearly 75% of the population is overweight and almost half are clinically obese. Sounds like "willpower" isn't working for the vast majority of people.

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j-a-a-p 613 days ago
That is not logical. If willpower fails, how could a pill be a solution? That is like suggesting to give everybody methadon, because the substance dependency issues are just too overwhelming. Or even better, give certain kids from 12 to 6 years old a gun to solve the school shootings issue.

If we give up on willpower, we have no plan b.

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Ygg2 613 days ago
> If not than in our society almost everybody would be obese.

Isn't that already the case. I'm of belief, the failing isn't individual but societal. You have obese toddlers and wild animals in the US.

I don't think this is a failure of willpower, it's a failure to investigate the actual causes of the obesity epidemic. Maybe it's sugar, perhaps it's highly processed oils, etc. Whatever it is, people aren't investigating it thoroughly enough.

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j-a-a-p 613 days ago
I live in lala land. Obese children are rare, however overweight is 11% and declining from 15% post covid.

The school where my kids go to has zero obese and zero overweight kids (n = 300).

We have Starbucks, McDonalds, Dunkin' Donuts and the same brands like Heinz and Coca Cola. Pizza.

So, I am optimistic willpower can prevent us from a new Ozempic disorder. I suggest to go for willpower and not pills. If willpowers falls short, in my country when a child becomes obese, child welfare steps in. So let the government intervene (yep, you will lose your parental power) with a lifestyle program.

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