[Someone1234]

What is the core of your point? That these drugs, that extend life, and reduce associated illnesses should be ignored or not used, because instead people can die sooner in some attempt to cure themselves the "correct" way?

A corpse cannot learn healthy lifestyle habits. A living person who lost weight the immoral way or whatever you're trying to say, can of course.

[BurningFrog]

A lot of people take blood pressure, cholesterol, and other medications daily for their entire lives.

If Ozempic ends up being another such drug, I don't think that's a bad thing.

[knifie_spoonie]

I'm not so sure about that.

All the people I know who are on those for-life medications absolutely hate the fact that they have to keep taking those pills every day until they die.

[eichin]

eh, my inner "prepper" is annoyed by the dependency, the rest of me is pleased that I've already lived longer than any of my male ancestors. (Kind of hard to sneer at advanced technology given what I do for a living :-)

[nasmorn]

Ozempic will not be needed for preppers. With modern society gone you will just be hungry a lot like nature intended

[eichin]

I was talking about one of the other "for-life medications" in the previous comment that are more in the "can't get this any more? oops, in 6 months your head explodes" category...

[Alupis]

The point is you still need to develop a lifestyle that is healthy. The drug isn't a miracle, it's a band aid. If you do not change your lifestyle, and you discontinue using this drug, you will relapse. This is the same issue many people face when they diet as well, so it is nothing new.

The point of my saying this is to point that out, because a lot of people in this thread seem to think it is totally ok to be on an Ozempic prescription for your entire life. That's horrifying for so many reasons. Others seem to think you take Ozempic until you're "cured" then you just live happily ever after. That's hardly going to be the case for many people who have struggled with weight for their entire lives.

[Wytwwww]

> That's horrifying for so many reasons

Why? AFAIK Ozempic seems to work by "modifying" behaviour and reducing the appeal of overeating and possibly engaging in other addictive behaviours.

It's not some magic pill that you take and then don't actually have to change anything about your lifestyles. It seems similar to antidepressants, ADHD drugs etc. in that way and a lot of people take those for extended periods or even their entire lives.

Besides potential side-effects etc. what's to horrifying about it?

[rixed]

I think we hear you, we should all take more care about bad lifestyle, everybody should exercise regularly and eat healthy food. But to be fair nobody has promoted a bad lifestyle, or said that, given there is this new drug let's care even less.

At the contrary, given the testimonies it sounds like the drug helps people to adopt better habits, no?

[Alupis]

> given the testimonies it sounds like the drug helps people to adopt better habits, no?

No, it helps people live a better lifestyle so long as they remain on this drug. The feeling/impulses are artificially suppressed.

Maybe they come right back if you stop taking the drug. One would hope you can take the drug until in a good place to take over on your own. Time will see - a great experiment is about to take place.

[Wytwwww]

> feeling/impulses are artificially suppressed.

A lot of people are less capable of controlling those impulse on their own and are inherently more prone to developing addictions than others due to genetic/etc. reasons. Yes they can make different choices, change their lifestyles, adopt certain routines etc. all which would require a huge amount of effort just to get on part with people who can achieve those things (relatively) almost effortlessly.

Why should they be forced to suffer due to something they have limited control over?