[ethbr1]

> Given the abundance of options for fitness classes and meal plan services...

This is part of what's fucked up about modern American lifestyles.

We shouldn't be promoting layering healthy behaviors (fresh foods and exercise) on top of our default lives -- we should be doing a better job of engineering our environment to make those things the default for all people.

F.ex. what if we highly taxed automobile entry into urban cores and shopping districts?

[ryukafalz]

Right. Design our cities so that getting around while getting exercise is safe and easy. And restaurants/etc should give you healthy portion sizes by default, not rely on your self-control to stop eating. And so on...

[jim-jim-jim]

Every yuppy feels compelled to remind you they go to the gym, expecting a pat on the head for being a responsible citizen, when it's really a sign of a dysfunctional lifestyle. Cordoning off a discrete slice of time to "be healthy" is pathetic imo. I'd much rather just be healthy. Gorillas don't work out.

But because I live in suburban Australia and eat the same pesticide laden slop as everybody else, I too have a gym membership.

[tsimionescu]

> Cordoning off a discrete slice of time to "be healthy" is pathetic imo.

What does this actually mean to you? Walking or even running is certainly not comparable to going to the gym, so what, should we lift heavy weights as part of our regular jobs to keep up our upper body muscle mass?

[ethbr1]

The results I've seen, and please correct me if my knowledge is wrong / outdated, are that modest physical activity (i.e. not gym, but more than our sedentary lifestyles) regularly nets most of the health benefit.

Ergo, we don't need to turn our jobs or built environment into Ninja Warrior.

We just need to build it to encourage that modest amount of activity.

[hooverd]

Gorillas can also digest cellulose.