[threeseed]

There is no reliable FSD implementation on any car right now so it's kind of an irrelevant question.

The more relevant one is what will happen first. Tesla figuring out how to make vision only work on their existing hardware. Or the price of LiDAR coming down.

[fshbbdssbbgdd]

I’ve ridden Waymo in SF and it has gone great. The cost was cheaper than the cheapest Lyft/Uber, but in a much nicer vehicle. I felt 100% safe the whole time, which is better than I can say about humans who get paid more if they drive faster. My only complaint is cases like where it “wasted” a few minutes because it didn’t want to do an illegal U-turn during the pickup (any human driver would have done it).

The word “reliable” without any units attached isn’t well-defined, so I can’t say whether Waymo meets that bar, but it’s a good customer experience.

[iknowstuff]

FYI Waymo is typically ~30% more expensive than Lyft/Uber in SF.

[p_l]

On-chip lidars are coming to automotive sector currently