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by nineplay 615 days ago
Maybe they'd have less political violence if they didn't associate with people who disagree with them. I'm not sure I'm convinced that dying for your political views is a fair price to pay for conversations with your neighbors.
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I'm not convinced that the two are correlated. We did just fine associating with people of different political perspectives and discussing politics with them all the way up through 2008 at least, ~~without the violence~~. [Scratching this part out because it's drawing plenty of justified criticism. I stand by the rest, and this part was generally true—with small exceptions—from at least 1990-2008.]

The complete refusal to interact with someone who disagrees with you is a relatively new phenomenon that seems to have risen alongside social media.

> We did just fine associating with people of different political perspectives...

We most certainly did not. Point to an era where there wasn't political violence in the US.

Jim Crow? Civil rights era? WTO Protests? Vietnam war protests? Rodney King? Stonewall? Like... this country has been violent about politics since this country was a country.

Growing up I was afraid to be even remotely "non-manly" because I was so worried I'd be dragged behind someone's truck.

> We did just fine associating with people of different political perspectives and discussing politics with them all the way up through 2008 at least, without the violence.

No, we didn't. Look up what happened in the 1960s. And even that was mild compared to what went on in election campaigns in the 19th century in the US.

>We did just fine associating with people of different political perspectives and discussing politics with them all the way up through 2008 at least, without the violence.

You must have forgotten the US Civil War, plus all the turbulence of the 1960s.

The big difference there was that, for the most part, the two sides were geographically separated from each other.

>The complete refusal to interact with someone who disagrees with you is a relatively new phenomenon that seems to have risen alongside social media.

If you're thinking of the early-to-mid 20th century, things have changed. America has become much more diverse, and co-mingled (in the past, immigrant and other minority groups tended to keep to themselves and not socially interact so much with other groups). White European-descended people are no longer the overwhelming majority (remember, immigrants in the past mostly came from Europe), religion has lost much of its power and many of its believers, homosexuality has become far more accepted, basically one side feels existentially threatened, and the other side oppressed.

Disagrees with you on what, exactly? Be specific.