[lfkdev]

"We're going to be blunt: Hacker News is increasingly a haven for alt-right trolls and hateful abusers"

In the years i've been on hackernews, not once i've had the feeling even in the slightest that this is the case. This is crazy.

[genrilz]

I do have some memories of not particularly trans positive comments in the comments section on earlier blogposts about their opengl/vulkan drivers, and also references to kiwi farms. I don't see such things commonly on most hacker news articles, but you'll usually see something like that anytime the article even incidentally has something to do with trans people.

Edit: I search "asahi lina site:news.ycombinator.com" in duckduckgo, and found "https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35237006" in the first result, for people who want proof.

[loufe]

I completely agree. I've not been on the receiving end of hate online, so I admit I may be insensitive, but this feels off.

I think blocking people from a certain community from accessing content, especially when the moderation team at least tries, is an odd approach at best. Why impede me from viewing content on your project just because the community I'm getting refered from has some moderation approaches you don't like?

[FirmwareBurner]

>Why impede me from viewing content on your project just because the community I'm getting refered from has some moderation approaches you don't like?

Because some people have a very thin skin and low emotional maturity despite outstanding brilliance on technical topics: "I've been disrespected by a troll on HN once or twice, therefore HN is full of right wing trolls so I'm gonna block them all as revenge"

Kind of like that Twitter/Reddit/Discord mod who just bans everyone who disagrees with them. Swinging the ban hammer online is their way of fighting back to the social injustice they perceived on and offline, as IRL they're even afraid of making eye contact with the Doordash courier, let alone stand up for themselves in the face of a disagreement or argument, so these types of knee-jerk reactions are their blow-off valve.

See Elon Musk and his behavior online. He might be a genius in some areas, but that doesn't stop him from acting like a spoiled man-child online. A lot of people are like that unfortunately, like a lot, and they should be going to therapy and touching grass not on engaging more on social media.

The truth is, no matter how much good you do, the moment you put yourself out online, you're inevitably gonna have a certain percentage haters, downvotes, and generally rude comments thrown your way, and there's nothing you can do about it except ignore it. It's just inevitable and you can't let that get to you, you can't have a thin skin if you put yourself out online.

Imagine if Linus Torvalds would have rage-quit like that in the 90s every time someone negatively criticized him or his work. OSS devs back then were cut from a different cloth, today everyone's offended by everything.

[kreetx]

Same here.

I don't doubt that people sometimes argue here "unpolotely", though, IMO, the solution is simply not to engage.

[elaus]

This doesn't reflect well on Asahi Linux. It feels similar to the WordPress drama of the past few weeks: individual people have a personal vendetta and are holding an open-source project hostage. I'm certain not all WordPress or Linux maintainers are behind their respective dramas but are inevitably pulled into it.

[Elinvynia]

Ask a random user of this site their opinion on trans rights and watch the masks drop.

[n00bskoolbus]

> This may surprise you as a HN user, since overly hateful content is indeed often flagged and not immediately visible in HN top-level comment sections. While this is true, there is a major flaw in the HN moderation mechanism that enables abuse to continue unabated. This is the fact that, when a comment is flagged and killed, its child subthread is not. Once the high-level comment is no longer visible in the top-level comment section by default, this significantly reduces moderation activity in the subthread, as users are less likely to click to expand it. The deeper you go, the less likely it is for content to be moderated.

Seems like a reasonable explanation why you might feel that way. I similarly haven't noticed that kind of rhetoric but I also haven't delved down into subthreads much

[kreetx]

The solution is simply not to engage. The expectation of the author appears to be that everybody must change into using a social behavior they expect. I'd ask, why don't they change themselves instead? ;)

[GaggiX]

if the comment is flagged then it should be visible only if you have "showdead" on on your account, so I don't see how it can be crawlable, same for the comment thread under the flagged comment.

[FirmwareBurner]

Same feeling I got. Anything that can be remotely considered right wing even through the most extreme mental gymnastics, is automatically flagged and/or downvoted.

So unless the author shows some proof of that, I'd ignore their claim. Innocent until proven guilty.