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> I think that’s a real issue for the evolution of Python, because updates to the language design (e.g. the makeup of the Steering Council) come almost entirely from the second group.

Yes I agree, and it's disappointing to see some take such a narrow view of things.

A big part of maintaining and evolving a language is saying "no" a lot. There are a lot of people with ideas, almost always reasoned from their own use-case. That's okay, everyone does that to some degree, but there almost always trade-offs and such to consider.

Your job as Steering Council or Core Dev or BFDL or whatever governance you have is to consider all use cases and make a balanced decision. Reading that thread, some do. But unfortunately others don't.

Even for Python 3, Guido spent most of his time saying "no" to proposals. There were a lot of pretty wild ideas for Python 3000.