[kingkawn]

"My feeling is that this effect might fade away as people become more used to the device."

The effect of removal from the environment will not fade, but the social ramifications for the user will. People are less pissy now when someone stops to check their phone during a conversation, but that's more due to the expectations of those around them rather than our expanded ability to functionally multitask.

[Cushman]

I feel like you didn't really read my post, since I was making a case that the "effect of removal from the environment" will fade that you didn't address... That aside, I think you're making a good point.

Part of the promise of the information age is general cognizance of the fact that we live in an incomprehensibly vast and complex universe, and that we are only able to perceive the most infinitesimal mote of it during our lives. With the judicious application of technology, we can expand our perceptions many times by accumulating information from different parts of physical space. For thousands of years, it was possible more or less to pretend that there was nothing else in the universe outside this room, and no one else alive but your family; thanks to the internet, that is purely impossible today.

It should not be surprising that this frightens some people.

Technophobes frequently protest that assisted communication can't have the value of face-to-face speech, which is frankly complete horseshit. Most of the in-person conversations that most people have most of the time are more banal and purposeless as the front page of Reddit (or 4chan, depending on your peer group). What is important is the relationships that we have with other people, and I've seen nothing in my experience or the literature to imply that relationships are intrinsically less meaningful because they are not communicated in person.

This sentiment is a form of forceful control exerted by those who have no other reason to command attention but proximity. This is also crap; attention is a product of interest and respect. If I am not interested by what you are saying, you will not maintain my full attention for long; and if you demand my full attention for no other reason than that you happen to be the human being closest to me in physical space, neither will you my respect.

[kingkawn]

cmon its not complete horseshit, getting to know somebody not just through their written or spoken idea but their facial expressions, their scent, their subtle body language is all meaningfully a part of our cognitive experience. Just because those things haven't necessarily been incorporated into cutting edge technology does not make them less relevant. We're all very impressed with ourselves for making cool gizmos that do wonderful things, but the backslapping and focus we have on our own achievements doesn't lessen the importance of the parts of our experience that nobody has even begun to effectively tackle. There are parts of human interaction that are not replaced by technology, at least not in its presence or near-future form. Period.

I did read your post, I disagree that the tune out will ever end, its just how it's read by others will culturally shift. you're still gonna be withdrawing your mental presence from the space, an externally triggered space-out.

[Devilboy]

In the Ghost in the Shell series you'll often see one person talking to another only to eventually realise that the other person was 'diving' (using the internet) and not listening to a word they say.