[shadowtree]

The internet you use to transmit this message wouldn't exist without fossil fuels - and I am not talking about energy, but computer and networking materials.

Ditto the fertilizer and many other things that keep you alive to type on here too.

It's very hard to maintain modern civilization without oil/gas products. Unless you want to be Amish.

[sunshinesnacks]

I think reducing fossil fuel use is separate from petroleum product use. We can have petroleum products without burning fossil fuels. Costs of petroleum extraction might go up, though, I imagine.

[dml2135]

I’d rather be Amish than dead!

[Krssst]

And while I agree it's hard, I think that keeping an industrial society should be possible. (although it means reworking almost all the production apparel to be carbon neutral (concrete/steel/fertilizer production, transports, agriculture, ...). Not going to happen in the short-term without an extremely strong political push and more research, on the world scale)

Actual production may become lower than today, but I'd like to believe we don't have to go full Amish.