[pdntspa]

I am glad he is calling out the C-levels for their propensity to lie and 'manage up'. This is a character trait that needs to be annihilated. We should not be filtering for what is effectively psychopathy.

I have watched so many amazing and sustainable products die because someone let the MBAs in. After sitting through so much of this crap dogma in my own business school classes, I would say the vast majority of what they/we are taught is actively harmful to most businesses.

[BurningFrog]

I don't like it more than you do, but it exists because it works in practical reality.

To replace it you must come up with something that works even better.

[pdntspa]

I disagree with this blocking tactic of "if you want to complain about it you must come up with something better"

Like, yes, let me completely redo my entire life path so I can redo one stupid argument.... I would love to, but I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth that gives me the sapce to explore these things, and I have more practical matters to attend to. Until then, we're going to be complaining to anyone that would listen.

This is why we elect representatives to handle our complaints. Except in the business world there are no representatives and the regulatory bodies are actively made toothless (by business interests), so the only prevailing doctrine is the one that allows the people at the top to steal ("capture") the most value from the process. Everyone else can just go fuck themselves, amiright? This is a system that needs to be destroyed.

[BurningFrog]

I don't mind you complaining at all!

I said that to replace it you must come up with something better.

I don't believe at all in the theory that if we only destroy the old system completely, a new just and effective system will arise from the ashes.

[pdntspa]

It isn't just about replacing the system, because as you say it works for the people that stand to benefit the most from it. A better replacement can never emerge until we have reprogrammed the culture of maximization and "efficiency" that has been allowed to fester.

I don't claim to know what a replacement would look like, but I personally think it would hold 'servant leadership' as a primary tenet, and destroy the notion of shareholder primacy, and have some sort of increasing level of entropy that scales as the business does, to the point where large companies are simply unsustainable for all but the most important of endeavors.

[dennis_jeeves2]

>To replace it you must come up with something that works even better.

Huh? I thought it was obvious: don't hire the MBA types as managers.