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by meow_catrix 621 days ago
Maybe don’t buy surveillance hardware from those brands
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Not OP, but the reason may be:

US - FCC Ban The US Federal Communications Commission (FCC) banned Dahua and Hikvision from new equipment authorizations in November 2022. Most products that use electricity require FCC equipment authorizations; otherwise, they are illegal to import, sell, market, or use, even for private individuals. Jul 5, 2024

Shame, they are the best cameras available.
Also it’s not like you stop supporting these OEMs if you buy other made in china cameras. They’re essentially all designed and manufactured by very few of these large OEMs, all of which are implicated in CCP state surveillance.

You’d have to buy from actual Western companies like Axis or Dallmeier.

A lot of the commercial-style or commercial-grade IP Cameras sold are rebadged Dahua or Hikvision products.

Compromised firmware or other backdoors are a concern for a wide range of products. With IP Cameras, a commonly recommended practice includes putting them on a non-internet accessible network, disabling any remote access, UPnP type features, etc. You can run IP cameras in an air-gapped configuration as well.

Home/consumer-grade cameras have plenty of shortcomings too.

If they are rebadged, that's fine :)
You're going to have to explain the reasoning here
”Analysts noticed that CCTV cameras in Taiwan and South Korea were digitally talking to crucial parts of the Indian power grid – for no apparent reason. On closer investigation, the strange conversation was the deliberately indirect route by which Chinese spies were interacting with malware they had previously buried deep inside the Indian power grid.”
link? i am close to CCTV retailers and dahua and hikvision are only brands of CCTV widely available with two exceptions of "cp plus" and "hawkvision" which are in all lilkelihood rebranded or made in china products.

https://www.amazon.in/s?k=cctv+system+4+channel

so what are your options? i have been contemplating getting a door phone + cctv for my home for the past so many years but problems like these prevent me from investing into an ecosystem.

edit: oh. looks like pager attacks has their attention now.

https://trak.in/stories/pager-bombs-govt-can-ban-chinese-cct...

i guess time will tell and then there is lobbying so yeah

> are in all lilkelihood rebranded or made in china products

IPVM did all the legwork on this a while ago and unconvered that, not that surprisingly, two and a half OEMs (including Dahua and Hikvision) are manufacturing essentially every not-completely-garbage CCTV camera coming out of china, and a bunch that very explicitly claimed to not come out of china.

Could you elaborate? What’s up with those brands?