[cameronh90]

Roundabouts not good for pedestrians and cyclists. In London we’ve been replacing roundabouts with other types of junction to improve pedestrian and cyclist safety.

We don’t have four way stops though so instead it’ll be min/maj junction or traffic lights.

[robjwells]

This is only true of typical UK-style roundabouts which are designed for motor vehicle throughput.

It’s extremely common in the Netherlands to replace crossroads and T-junctions with roundabouts to improve safety, but Dutch urban roundabouts are designed with safety as the main priority. This is achieved through single lanes, sharp entries, limiting forward visibility, and pedestrian and cyclist priority (via what are effective zebras).

For more information see eg: https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2015/10/13/explaining-the...

(Edit: fixed wrong link)

[cameronh90]

We should absolutely be deploying these where we can, but they do take up a lot of space relative to their traffic throughput, and are only really suitable for a fairly narrow range of traffic volumes.

NL seems to quite commonly have this kind of physically large but medium traffic suburban junction, but outside of Milton Keynes and the outskirts of some towns that got heavily developed in the 60s, it's hard to see many places where we could just drop it in.

[tinodb]

I don’t think they do!

> That the Dutch roundabout, including the cycle tracks all around it, can be built in almost the same space of a traditional junction is the reason why so many are being converted.

From: https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/junction-desig...