[seec]

I feel sorry for your problems, but to be honest I'm reading the discussion here to understand what others think and who exactly can buy in that sort of "too good to be true" ideal solution.

Because to me it just looks like another shiny thing that tries to be everything to everyone and ends up doing nothing good. They seem to be good salesmen, but less competent devs, at least when it comes to creating real innovation, not repacking old code/ideas.

I'm saying that because, both of their websites are so bad that they create problems in Chrome, something that is rather rare nowadays with an adblocker; the Tamagui one repeatedly eats memory and crash in tab and the One seem to have some rendering issues.

It did not investigate because I don't really care, but I'll say it doesn't inspire confidence at all and in my opinion, it is largely enough evidence to dismiss the whole thing as a toy project of semi competent devs.

In another comment, I have seen you drop the hypocrisy and be a bit mad about the support you gave for disappointing results. I think the one you are the maddest at is yourself, because you feel you should have known and to be honest, you probably should have. But we all learn everyday...

[nwienert]

That's a mean thing to say, but shows you lack the ability to judge skill. I've been doing this for a long time at the highest level, and I love doing it so I take care.

Our websites both get very high performance scores and if you profile them neither of them does anything at idle. Tamagui site does a ton of fun animations to show off how well it works, it's possible if you're on Linux or Windows with certain drivers causing issues, mind telling me any of that info?

I'm an old school web developer, I've spent a lot of time on performance. I'm proud of the sites, they weren't easy to pull off. I checked in Chrome again just now and things feel very smooth, and I don't see memory runaway. Do you have any other extensions?

[seec]

No problem I was mean first. And you are right, I don't have enough competency to judge skill in this particular field.

However, I was just relating what was happening on my computer, my experience. Out of the 30 or so tabs that were open at this moment, your site was the only one to cause problem, so I don't think it has anything to do with the particularities of my install (I do have many extensions, they just don't cause trouble on any of the many sites I browse).

Right now, I can't reproduce the issue so I can't say more nor investigate a bit with the dev tools (not that I care enough to, sorry).

I will close by saying that I do not need to be a 3-star chef to judge the quality of an expensive multi-course meal. You may want to argue that it is not the same thing or attack me personally but realistically it is much better to realize that your standards may be different and that for some people, your stuff isn't up to snuff.

I don't think your stuff is exceptionally bad but it's a relatively simple page, that loads a gazillion js/css and uses more memory than a YouTube page with buffered/playing video with fully loaded comments and sidebar. You may very well have some specific benchmark that tells you that it's fast but if it feels slow in use that's clearly a problem. Maybe you are not focusing on the right thing.

I don't think your approach is very valuable for useful products but I guess that's just my opinion, good luck for the future regardless!

[nwienert]

I loaded tamagui.dev, onestack.dev and a random youtube video (not playing): in order, 107Mb, 48Mb, and 219Mb of memory. Lighthouse scores are good. Profiling shows near 0 main thread work at all while scrolling or doing common actions, no memory leaks I can see after moving around the pages. Loading many JS files is not bad so long as it doesn't waterfall, actually good practice to an extent, and we have no waterfalls and prefetch everything on hover.

I don't doubt you saw something, I'll keep an eye out for issues. I checked in Safari and it looks similarly fine there.