[MichaelZuo]

Why do they qualify as ‘solutions’ in the first place, if the ‘solution’ cannot withstand some percentage of people pursuing self interest above all else? (Which has always been the case to varying degrees since the first organized polities arose ~5k to ~10k years ago)

It sounds more like a hodgepodge of brittle norms.

[PaulDavisThe1st]

If you (as a culture) manage to successfully run a fishery for 500 years and then someone invents capitalism and yourexisting mechanisms can't withstand the new morality and motives it endorses and encourages ... I am not sure that you've failed.

[MichaelZuo]

But there was no deep sea fishery 500 years ago?

So how could any culture on Earth have been ‘successful’ at managing one 500 years ago?

They may have been ‘successful’ in presuming that they could one day manage such in the distant future, but no more than that.

This applies to most things, technological advancement creates new physical realities that must be adapted to…

[PaulDavisThe1st]

Sure!

But then don't make the claim (as Hardin did) that common ownership of resources leads to tragedy.

[MichaelZuo]

How does that follow?