[dennisy]

I feel this idea extends past just learning, I worry using LLMs to write code is making us all lazy and unfocused thinkers.

I personally have banned myself from using any in editor assistance where you just copy the code directly over. I do still use chatGPT but without copy pasting any code, more along the lines of how I would use search.

[steve_adams_86]

I do this as well. I have inline suggestions enabled with supermaven (I like the tiny, short, fast suggestions it creates), but otherwise I’m really using LLMs to validate ideas, not actually generate code.

I find supermaven helps keep me on track because its suggestions are often in line with where I was going, rather than branching off into huge snippets of slightly related boilerplate. That’s extremely distracting.

[dennisy]

Yes! This is the other point is that it is also just distracting as you are thinking through a hard problem to have code just popping up which you inevitably end up reading even if you know what you planned to write.

Just had a glimpse at supermaven and not sure why that would be better, the site suggest it is a faster copilot.

[steve_adams_86]

It’s better for me because the suggestions are much faster and typically more brief and useful. However, I haven’t used copilot for quite a while, so it might be similar these days. I recall it having very verbose, tangential suggestions.