[paul7986]

If you're a startup founder with high morality you could never go against you are going to have trouble succeeding!

[JumpCrisscross]

> If you're a startup founder with high morality…you are going to have trouble succeeding

This reminds of people who claim they’re too honest to disguise that they’re assholes. You can absolutely start a company and make lots of money without compromising your values. Someone claiming otherwise is usually trying to excuse bad behaviour or get over a past failure.

[hyggetrold]

> You can absolutely start a company and make lots of money without compromising your values.

Here's the thing though, and I say this from personal experience...if you're willing to compromise your values...you can make a shitload of money.

[JumpCrisscross]

> if you're willing to compromise your values...you can make a shitload of money

Of course. But then you’re also playing a different game, one where the downsides are expanded from make no money to go to jail or worse.

[justinclift]

Or be outright killed, depending upon who you decided to cross.

[paul7986]

Go to jail ... so many startup bro(s) have lied, cheated, stole and possibly worse to get to where they are and they didnt care. Same with many politicians on the left and right should be locked up for doing worse but arent and wont. Pardon to get political just saying the uber successful that most lack the same morality regular folks do. That was a downfall in my startup adventures my morality and being a nice guy!

[JumpCrisscross]

This reminds me of the popular view of insider trading. Numpties think everyone does it. So they do. And then they get caught. Because executing an insider trade ex ante versus detecting it ex post facto is an P != NP problem.

[paul7986]

Sure, you can start a company and make money, but if you wanna do startups and win the race, you will have to plow over everyone (without caring an ounce) in your way