[consteval]

Right, it can require describing and refining over and over. I still don't think that means you did the thing. Otherwise, the business analysts who have to constantly describe requirements would be software engineers, but they're not.

Not that that isn't a skill in it of itself. I just don't think it's a creationary skill. What you're creating is the description, not the product.

[ipaddr]

You are creating the product but have to go through an unclear layer and through trial and error you try to reach your original vision. No different from painting a picture for an amateur.

The better you get the closer you can get to your original vision.

[aenvoker]

Best reply I can give ya I already typed up for someone else here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41743680