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by aneutron 623 days ago
A lot of folks in the comments are acting like this was one of what they refer to as "cowboys".

Yet the guy went through each and every hoop to cooperate and coordinate properly with the ATC (which should dispell all the "100 planes in the air" worries) and the local IC (that set up a landing zone for the guy and gave him the frequencies to coordinate).

I understand that there may be some vigilantes that would ignore the rules and procedures but this guy with his previous expertise in fire and rescure went through all the stages to help.

The local fire chief was either on a power trip, or had a knee-jerk reaction to out of org help (which IMO disqualifies him from being an effective IC capable of using the available resources to prioritize human life). It is very clear that the guy was absolutely ready to cooperate according to the rules that the chief would set, but ordering him to not go back for his son is ABSOLUTELY a power trip.
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_djo_ 623 days ago
The only ATC the article says he spoke to was the Tower at Charlotte-Douglas International, to get permission to fly over the airport. They only manage the area immediately around the airport, and it's not the ATC that's coordinating the disaster response and managing the aircraft over the disaster area.
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aneutron 623 days ago
That is my point. Any order regarding flight restrictions will be immediately disseminated by the local ATC, and I do understand that the ATC does not coordinate the rescue effort over the area, my point is he DID get the permission and actively attempted and successfully coordinated and complied withe the DR team who set up a landing zone for him.

My point being this is a clear failure of the IC (the fire chief in this case)

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_djo_ 623 days ago
He spoke to local first responders, not to the people actually coordinating the air response.

There are different ATCs and areas of responsibility. The only one the article says he spoke to was the Tower at an airport in Charlotte, over 100km away. They're only going to have been concerned with what he was doing in the immediate airport vicinity as crossing traffic, not where he was going to and what he'd be doing there.

There obviously wasn't a no-fly zone over Charlotte at the time, so the ATC would not have had to disseminate the info during their communications. Instead, that would be reflected in NOTAMS issued by the FAA.

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