[zdragnar]

California doesn't rely on Russian gas, and still has one (small) coal power plant.

Even so, cross the border into Oregon and their rates are half... CA is literally double the national average price in the US.

CA makes up about 11% of the US population. So, just short of 90% of the country pays half of what they do.

CA is a big place, but simply is not representative of the country as a whole. They are, in fact, an outlier in many metrics.

[inferiorhuman]

… so? How is any of that relevant?

I wasn't comparing the whole country to the UK, I was comparing California to the UK.

There are more people in California than in a number of developed countries (e.g. Netherlands, Portugal, Taiwan, Singapore). PG&E alone provides electricity to more people (16 million across 5.5 million accounts) than the entire population of New England (15 million). California as a single market is an entirely valid comparison.

[zdragnar]

You said

    Wha? Fair play if you think the US is not a developed country

California and Hawaii are both extreme outliers in the US, and aside from gasoline prices in California, both are on the extreme end of outliers in comparing to Europe on most metrics as well.

Neither are good comparisons for what is "normal"... The only thing the comparison does is prove that the UK has high energy prices.

[inferiorhuman]

Last I checked California was part of the United States and the comparison I made was not about the US as a whole.