[krapp]

>More than I'd expect for a pure revenge server.

Seems about right to me. Don't underestimate how organized and developed the anti-woke outrage machine is, and the fact that this blew up on Twitter when the "game engines are woke" meme was ascendant. It's a perfect tempest in a teacup.

I mean, it's literally just a fork of Godot with a reskin at this point, that few people would even know about outside of the context of the controversy that led to it. What reason would is have for having as many stars other than hype and virtue signaling political alignment?

[ultra_chad]

Outrage machine? You mean people sincerely disagreeing with the hateful bullshit the Godot community managers and moderators have been saying publically?

[maxlin]

It's a way to dehumanize the majority of people who'd like to keep politics out of professional game development.

There's no way to argue that this whole controversy wasn't just made up on purpose by a radical CM. At some point companies have to learn having these people in control of the social media profiles isn't a good idea, and siding with them is even worse. This is peak unprofessionalism and trying to poison the community well.

[johnnyanmac]

"on purpose" gives too much credit. No one ever knows when some random tweet suddenly becomes a hurricane. That's why PR tries to be as milqeutoast in posting as possible. Often never allowed to even reply to any but the most obvious questions woth the most canned responses (when is X comkng out. And not much more).

But yes, the various issues with the community (even before the Unity implosion) and its design philosophies that show no hint of changing (which are fine, just not to my needs) is why I'm looking more into Stride for my OS engine instead.

Or at least that was the plan until layoff season came. Hope 2025 gives me better stability so I can get back to my long term goals.

[maxlin]

I see the argument in saying the CM would do that accidentally, but don't personally buy it. They are supposed to be professionals in this, yet their post implying a stance ("woke is good and relevant to game engines") of the whole Godot community is something that could only be considered "neutral" for people who insulate themselves from said large community.

Ideally I'd like the devs of projects to handle their tweets themselves, even if they tweet less, and not be overly milktoasty about it. But the standard is in the Mariana Trench given for many companies a Golden Retriever would be a better CM. I hope Godot/Redot somehow survives this with the larger community intact.

Btw, Stride is cool. As a C# game dev for 10 years, I love to see non-Unity C# engines actually being used/seriously considered!

[woobilicious]

She has "obnoxiously queer" in her twitter bio,

"they" posted "Apparently Game Engines are woke now" "show us your #wokot games below", which is obviously rage bait, in response to a stupid tweet with minimum traction.

She blocked mild criticism, and then I kid you not, posted a selfie of herself in the shower, to flame Asmongold due to his video on the subject.

Saying that something is "random" is completely ignoring the fact that at every chance she had to be obnoxiously queer, she took it.

Xananax also posted a unprofessional message on the official website linked discord, and then the so called official response to the situation made excuses saying that this discord isn't official.

They've had many instances to act better, distance themselves from the unprofessional behavior and didn't take it.

[despera]

How do you know what the majority wants or that even matters?

Simply because some sociopaths have stopped seeing themselves as active members of the society, doesn't necessarily make them neither a majority nor a healthy group of people.

To honor basic human rights is "poisoning"? That's some strong projection.

[maxlin]

I think your reply unintentionally just strengthens my point. You just double down on the dehumanization and polarization while sounding like you're out of touch with the majority.

[despera]

Polarization like... staying tf away from racists, homophobics, genocide supporters and in general toxic people? Yeah, i guess that's the kinda of polarization that i can support. Majority or not.

[maxlin]

Doubling down on irrelevant labels is just self projection from you at this point.

But in abstract, people want to make games. If you go looking for trouble and try to shed more and more layers off, eventually you're left only with radicals and yes men. The obvious choice is to just not bring politics to arenas where people are strongest just playing to their strengths together. Forcing in partisanship for no reason only makes the whole weaker in their mission, while also becoming an echo chamber.

Make games with everyone that wants to make games, for everyone that wants to play games. Or get out of the industry.

[anonfordays]

Polarization like... staying tf away from anti-White racists, misandrist, antisemetic genocide supporters, child groomers, and in general toxic people? Yeah, i guess that's the kinda of polarization that i can support. Majority or not.

[ultra_chad]

Yeah, everyone with different opinions from you is an evil cartoon character. You're the reasonable and intelligent one.