[henryluo]

Do you agree to Linus Torvalds that “Visual Basic did more for programming than Object-Oriented Languages did”?

[bigfatkitten]

> Torvalds, as it turns out, was right: it was primarily the tools, ecosystems, integrations, and frameworks that would define the near future, not the design of the languages themselves.

JavaScript, as a case in point. It's a terrible language.

[zubairq]

Yes, I agree with that