[ruthmarx]

> but by that logic nobody has conclusively seen the hole in the middle of a donut either.

Not quite..we can see the donut hole very clearly, put things through it, measure it, interact with it. We can measure and observe and test it however we like.

Not so with a black hole. Yet.

[jawilson2]

I guess I don't understand...what is going on here? https://eventhorizontelescope.org/

[prewett]

My understanding is that the EHT images are a result of a lot (like, months) of data processing, not an image from the telescope. So arguably still not a direct observation.

[Asraelite]

Digital photographs are just the result of processing the sensor readings of photodiodes. It seems quite arbitrary to say one is an "image" and the other isn't just because the processing step is more complicated. Both accurately represent what you would see if you were there in person (ignoring false color etc.).

[ruthmarx]

Exactly this.