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by JumpCrisscross 634 days ago
> the million plus workers getting minimum wage

Neither of you have a point. Median wages have lagged productivity growth. But most Americans don’t earn the minimum wage.

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We should ignore that a million plus people are working for minimum wage. They don’t count. I agree with you.

It’s better to say that the statistics aren’t changed much by increasing the federal minimum wage as it pertains to the productivity/pay gap. But one should acknowledge that for those making minimum wage it is a disgrace that it hasn’t increased for a long time and that it is far too low. Those people do matter. This isn’t just a discussion about statistics. There is a human element to the issue and morality is part of what one ought to consider when thinking about the issue.

EDIT: I edited my comment while you were responding. The discussion in the present thread is not about the dockworkers. It’s about the pay/productivity gap in the U.S. In that discussion a person said that minimum wage workers were irrelevant and that the minimum wage was just a political talking point.

> They don’t count

That’s unfair.

Of course they count. The question is whether port logistics is the best policy tool with which to address their plight.

The striking dockworkers don’t earn minimum wage. If the striking workers win, the minimum wage stays right where it is and has been for ~2mm minimum-wage workers [1]. This isn’t a fight about minimum wage. They count. But they aren’t relevant.

> about the pay/productivity gap in the U.S.

Fair enough. I believe we need a minimum-wage hike. But I don’t see how that’s relevant to a union strike.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_the_United_S...

Average compensation has not lagged productivity growth. Maybe median has? Maybe only some subset?

Longshoreman make well above median wage.