[patrickmay]

> For teams that don't have a good PM, you also need a tech champion.

That's part of the role of a Technical Program Manager. The Eng Manager, Product Manager, and TPM should form a holy trinity of mutual support, filling in for each other's gaps. When that happens, you get much better odd of having a high performing team.

Source: I've been both an engineering manager and a TPM. Never the PM, though.

[NAHWheatCracker]

Perhaps that can work, but I'm skeptical whenever the solution is "another manager".