[stroupwaffle]

I think it will be an organoid brain bio-machine. We can already grow organs—just need to grow a brain and connect it to a machine.

[godelski]

Maybe that'll be the first way, but there's nothing special about biology.

Remember, we don't have a rigorous definition of things like life, intelligence, and consciousness. We are narrowing it down and making progress, but we aren't there (some people confuse this with a "moving goalpost" but of course "it moves", because when we get closer we have better resolution as to what we're trying to figure out. It'd be a "moving goalpost" in the classic sense if we had a well defined definition and then updated in response to make something not work, specifically in a way that is inconsistent with the previous goalpost. As opposed to being more refined)

[stroupwaffle]

The something special about biology is it uses much less energy than a network of power-hungry graphics cards!

[godelski]

No one denies that. But there's no magic. The real baffling thing is that people refuse to pick up a neuroscience textbook

[Dylan16807]

If a brain connected to a machine is "AGI" then we already have a billion AGIs at any given moment.

[stroupwaffle]

Well, I mean to say, not exactly human brains. Consider an extremely large brain modified to add/remove sections to increase its capabilities.

They already model neural networks on the human brain, even though they currently use orders of magnitude more energy.

[Dylan16807]

But modifying a brain to be bigger and better doesn't require much in the way of computers, it's basically a separate topic.

[idle_zealot]

Somehow I doubt that organic cells (structures optimized for independent operation and reproduction, then adapted to work semi-cooperatively) resemble optimal compute fabric for cognition. By that same token I doubt that optimal compute fabric for cognition resembles GPUs or CPUs as we understand them today. I would expect whatever this efficient design is to be extremely unlikely to occur naturally, structurally, and involve some very exotic manufactured materials.

[Moosdijk]

The keyword being “just”.

[godelski]

  just adverb 
  to turn a complex thing into magic with a simple wave of the hands

  E.g. To turn lead into gold you _just_ need to remove 3 protons

[ggm]

Just grow, just connect, just sustain, just avoid the many pitfalls. Indeed just is key

[stroupwaffle]

You “just” need a more vivid imagination if that’s as far as your comment stretches.

I mean seriously, people on here. I’m just spitballing ideas not intended to write some kind of dissertation on brain-machine interaction.

That’s Elon musks department.

[Moosdijk]

Okay. The keyword should have been “science fiction”