[kolja005]

I'm curious in what sense you find Python difficult to deploy? My company has tons of Python APIs internally and we never have much trouble with them. They are all pretty lightly used services so it it something about doing it on a larger scale?

[jpc0]

Forcing something like WSGI and distributed computing is the biggest thing architecturally.

I'm currently moving 4 python microservices into a single go binary. The only reason they were ever microservices was because of WSGI and how that model works.

In any conventional language those are just different threads in the same monolith but I didn't have that choice. So instead of deploying a single binary I had to deploy microservices and a gateway and a reverse proxy and a redis instance, for an internal tool that sees maybe 5 users...

It was the wrong tool for the job.

[tinodb]

I don’t see why WSGI would enforce any of that. Just sounds like someone jumped the microservices hype train…. You can as easily fit it in one python program as in one go binary.

[jpc0]

I can keep an effective in memory store of data and expect it to even be the same in memory store of data? When a wsgi server is spawning multiple processes?

Or kick of long running backend tasks in a other thread?

These are things that python forces you to do in a distributed manner. Partly because of the gil and partly because those pesky cloud native best practices don't apply outside of the cloud...

And well if I'm going to have to reimplment an http server not ontop of wsgi how about just using a different language that doesn't have those same fundamental problems for the use case...

There's things I would happily use python for. A webserver just isn't one of them.

I mean it takes 10 lines of code to have a webserver running in golang, the language is build for it.

[javcasas]

There is a world of difference between having to install python, libraries (some of them may require C-based libs and compiling, therefore also install gcc), then configure wsgi, hope it doesn't clash with other python versions or have docker and containers... or just generating a fat binary in go.

[theshrike79]

Deploying a Go application: copy executable to server, done.

Deploying a Python application: 1) Install python globally (oof) 2) figure out which venv system to use 3) copy project to server 4) install project to venv 5) figure out how to run it inside the venv so that it'll find the correct package versions from there instead of using the global ones.

[codegeek]

Yea. I have worked with Python and Ruby just a little to know that deployments are a pain with those 2. Go is a breeze. You do need to setup systemd etc to run the binary but thats it.